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New version of image is not displayed.
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hsl0
Sep 13 2020, 19:26
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F1348961: Screenshot_20200924-014456_Samsung Internet.png
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F1348964: Screenshot_20200924-014445_Samsung Internet.png
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F1256961: 20200913172609!낚시질.jpg
Sep 13 2020, 19:26
F1256962: 89fe69b25e826d2e4d8a8d37f3f40fca9118ca7e.jpg
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F1256960: 낚시질.jpg
Sep 13 2020, 19:26
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Description

When I change an lower quality image into a higher quality image, I hoped the original image would uploaded as it is, but the uploaded image showing lower quality of the previous lower quality image. The image has been just bigger with low quality. When I upload the same HQ image in another name, the quality of image is similar with the original image. When I move the first uploaded file into another name, the quality of image had got back into original quality. But moving it to the original title, the quality degraded again, not the quality remains. I also tried purge, but the image doesn't renewed.

The problem occurs 'libertygame' wiki(A=File:낚시질.jpg; B=File:낚시질2.jpg; C=File:낚시질1.jpg) and public test wiki(A=File:file test fishing.jpg), but test.wikipedia.org(A=File:file test fishing.jpg) doesn't. So it seems to be miraheze's problem.

Reproduce:

  1. Prepare a small thumbnail image and its original image. (I'm not sure it can be reproduced with totally different images, but it worth to try.)
  1. Upload the lower quality image. (You're free to name it. I'll call the file's title A.)
  2. Change the file A into the higher quality image.
  3. Compare the new file A with original higher quality image you have.
    • You'll find that the file A's quality is different with your original file.
  1. Upload the same higher quality image in another title. (I'll call the file's title B.)
  2. Compare the file B with original file and file A.
    • You'll find that the file B is same with original file you have.
    • You'll find that the file B has higher quality than file A.
  1. Move file A into the different title. (I'll call the new title C.)
  2. Compare the file C with file A and original file.
    • You'll find that the file C have got higher quality than before.
    • You'll find that the file C looks same with the original file or file B.
  1. Move file C into A again.
  2. Compare the file A with the privious A, file C and original file.
    • You'll find that file A have got back into the lower quality of the previous A.
    • You'll find that file A looks worse than file C or the original file.

Tested Images:

89fe69b25e826d2e4d8a8d37f3f40fca9118ca7e.jpg (257×349 px, 31 KB)
original file

20200913172609!낚시질.jpg (74×100 px, 3 KB)
low quality file

낚시질.jpg (74×100 px, 3 KB)
file A

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Universal_Omega moved this task from Backlog to Bugs on the MediaWiki board.
hsl0 renamed this task from The new version of image is not displayed. to New version of image is not displayed..Sep 13 2020, 20:01

Can you provide a link to an example of the issue?

In T6175#120802, @Zppix wrote:

Can you provide a link to an example of the issue?

'libertygame' wiki (libertygame.miraheze.org):
A: https://libertygame.miraheze.org/wiki/File:낚시질.jpg
B: https://libertygame.miraheze.org/wiki/File:낚시질2.jpg
C: https://libertygame.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=File:낚시질1.jpg&redirect=no (already moved to A, redirect to A now)

public test wiki (publictestwiki.com):
A: https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/File:File_test_fishing.jpg (removed by administrator)

test.wikipedia.org (problem not occurs):
A: https://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:File_test_fishing.jpg

Can you try to reproduce on TestWiki?

Are you sure this is not standard caching?

Are you sure this is not standard caching?

I'm not sure, but it should be fixed whether in Miraheze or Mediawiki. If it's standard caching, I think Mediawiki should provide force image cache purging feature at least. (action=purge didn't worked for image) The problem didn't reproduced in wikipedia test site, so I posted the issue here.

In T6175#121220, @Zppix wrote:

Can you try to reproduce on TestWiki?

https://publictestwiki.com/wiki/File:Reproduce_fishing.jpg

I tried steps until 3~4 and purging in action=purge. If you want to see further steps, I'll do that when you request.

I honestly don't see any issues with the file

This comment was removed by hsl0.
hsl0 removed hsl0 as the assignee of this task.Sep 23 2020, 16:33

Screenshot_20200924-014456_Samsung Internet.png (1×720 px, 302 KB)
A
Screenshot_20200924-014445_Samsung Internet.png (1×720 px, 247 KB)
B

As time passed, the cache of A image has purged now. So you may not find the problem now. That's why I provide you screenshots of them.

Again, the problem is that the image's cache isn't refreshed quickly, so the changed image doesn't show up right away on the wiki. There is no period of time that is guaranteed to purge, and there is no way to force a purge. It doesn't seem to the problem of MediaWiki software because other wiki (test.wikipedia.org) doesn't happened.

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There have been changes to cache in recent weeks, so hopefully this problem is resolved in future.