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Recent Activity

Apr 16 2023

CrystalClear awarded T10740: SMW enablement/installation (maintenance script needed) a Love token.
Apr 16 2023, 20:35 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear added a comment to T10740: SMW enablement/installation (maintenance script needed).

dmlwiki done.

Apr 16 2023, 18:51 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear created T10740: SMW enablement/installation (maintenance script needed).
Apr 16 2023, 18:13 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki

Jan 23 2023

CrystalClear added a comment to T9875: Please Re-install Pivot Skin (now Wikimedia maintained).

Thanks so much! 🍺

Jan 23 2023, 19:16 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)

Jan 22 2023

CrystalClear added a comment to T9875: Please Re-install Pivot Skin (now Wikimedia maintained).

Reopening this, because at the time the MH skin version was downloaded, Wikimedia folks had renamed the skin folder, unknowingly causing several embedded skin assets to give 404s, which was reported and remedied here:

Jan 22 2023, 21:53 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear reopened T9875: Please Re-install Pivot Skin (now Wikimedia maintained), a subtask of T9446: Upgrade to MediaWiki 1.39.1, as Open.
Jan 22 2023, 21:53 · Notice, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear reopened T9875: Please Re-install Pivot Skin (now Wikimedia maintained) as "Open".
Jan 22 2023, 21:53 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)

Nov 26 2022

CrystalClear added a comment to T9875: Please Re-install Pivot Skin (now Wikimedia maintained).

No problem. Thanks for letting us know! :)

Nov 26 2022, 00:52 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)

Oct 29 2022

CrystalClear updated the task description for T9875: Please Re-install Pivot Skin (now Wikimedia maintained).
Oct 29 2022, 23:30 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear updated the task description for T9875: Please Re-install Pivot Skin (now Wikimedia maintained).
Oct 29 2022, 23:27 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear created T9875: Please Re-install Pivot Skin (now Wikimedia maintained).
Oct 29 2022, 23:22 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
Herald added a project to T9340: Remove Skin:Pivot: Universal Omega.

This extension has been moved to Wikimedia Phabricator, is marked as maintained (now maintained by Wikimedia folks, as was kindly offered here once it was posted about), and is now marked compatible with 1.39+ on its extension page.

Oct 29 2022, 23:13 · Universal Omega, Notice, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki

Jun 14 2022

CrystalClear added a comment to T9340: Remove Skin:Pivot.

Sorry, I'm not a programmer, just a MH user. I saw there was a fork by a Wikimedia developer, with one file different (which has 4 lines changed in it. isLoggedIn looks to have been changed to isRegistered in each). I didn't realize it was a problem to swap out that file or use fork at the bottom of the link, so again, sorry.

Jun 14 2022, 09:59 · Universal Omega, Notice, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki

Jun 13 2022

CrystalClear added a comment to T9340: Remove Skin:Pivot.

A patch has been submitted for this skin and confirmed as working (though not yet merged), can it please be retested for those wikis that use it?

Jun 13 2022, 19:12 · Universal Omega, Notice, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki

Mar 21 2022

CrystalClear added a comment to T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).

Also, I can't re-create the tables via interface, I asked if someone could or would please try that via SSH, but received no response to that ask, so diabled cargo instead.

Mar 21 2022, 22:36 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions

Mar 19 2022

CrystalClear added a comment to T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).

Thanks for this!

Mar 19 2022, 23:40 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki

Mar 18 2022

CrystalClear added a comment to T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).

Okay, thanks. I've just unsubscribed and muted since I can't take myself off this, and I can't close it.

Mar 18 2022, 23:59 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions
CrystalClear changed the status of T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please) from Open to Stalled.
Mar 18 2022, 23:13 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions
CrystalClear added a comment to T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).

I'm guessing this problem is related to T8876, rendering cargo unusable for us. I'm mark as stalled (apologies if that's not correct, please feel free to mark as closed because we're not moving forward with MH at this time, will re-test for migration at a later date).

Mar 18 2022, 23:13 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions
CrystalClear added a comment to T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).

Thanks for confirming, (and yep, using Cargo and DPL3 together on pages sounds a little insane lol). We've entirely disabled Cargo, and we'll just stick where our production wiki is at for now, and finish thoroughly testing the last LTS against Cargo and DPL3 before we do an upgrade. We'll edit once a month or something on MH to keep alive for a future migration re-test.

Mar 18 2022, 08:21 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear added a comment to T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).

Only one or the other is used on individual pages, not both. Or are you referring to simply having both extensions enabled on a single wiki at the same time (and not using them together on pages)? When we tested their use together on a standalone MW install (1.34 and 1.35 LTS), they were fine.

Mar 18 2022, 07:45 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear added a comment to T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).

Just as an update to this, one table is still not populating fully:

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Mar 18 2022, 05:23 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions
CrystalClear added a comment to T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).

Thanks very much for the performance improvements. I'll test, but first I'm going to test with DPL3 disabled to see if our 502/503s continue on other pages, and on pages that use Cargo, which is having weird problems of its own, per T8828 (related or unrelated, no idea).

Mar 18 2022, 00:27 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki

Mar 7 2022

CrystalClear added a comment to T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).

Here's some interesting info to add now that I'm testing. I waited until job queue was empty then set a table to re-create... initially the correct number of jobs are created that match the number of entries that should populate in the Cargo table (854 jobs, for 854 rows needing to be populated? Is that how it even works?):

Mar 7 2022, 19:50 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions
CrystalClear added a comment to T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).

For the short term, re-creating the tables via cargoRecreateData.php would be very helpful yes, thank you. Then I can see if they populate at all or if the same occurs (the interface method supposedly runs the same, but perhaps some limit or other issue is interrupting its ability to complete or not time out? I think long-term, it might be worthwhile finding out why the tables are not populating, and why job queue reports as having only 3 jobs.

Mar 7 2022, 19:24 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions

Mar 4 2022

CrystalClear updated the task description for T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).
Mar 4 2022, 02:06 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear added a comment to T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).

I see others have been reporting in Discord too.

Mar 4 2022, 02:02 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear updated the task description for T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).
Mar 4 2022, 02:01 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear updated the task description for T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).
Mar 4 2022, 01:43 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear updated the task description for T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).
Mar 4 2022, 01:35 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear created T8876: Investigate MW 502/503 errors/high load (poor optimisation).
Mar 4 2022, 01:34 · Performance, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear added a comment to T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).

The tables that won't populate, and can't be swapped, are the ones that trigger the errors. Seems like we may be stuck between a rock and a hard place unless table regeneration is done via SSH.

Mar 4 2022, 00:24 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions

Mar 3 2022

CrystalClear added a comment to T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).

Unfortunately, no. While some tables have populated via job queue, and can be swapped in (the ones with 9k and 14k rows), the old tables remain active until they can be swapped, so I can't test against the new ones. For some reason, the others have gotten stuck repeatedly and refused to populate with all results, so I'm having to redo them one by one, repeatedly after they are stuck for significant lengths of time.

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Mar 3 2022, 22:43 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions

Mar 1 2022

CrystalClear added a comment to T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).

Thanks for adding the details!

Mar 1 2022, 06:39 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions

Feb 24 2022

CrystalClear updated the task description for T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).
Feb 24 2022, 19:25 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions
CrystalClear created T8828: Cargo Exception (need exception details please).
Feb 24 2022, 19:23 · MediaWiki (SRE), Extensions

Dec 11 2021

CrystalClear added a comment to T8270: Added Cargo Config.

All works now, thank you!

Dec 11 2021, 22:48 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)

Dec 9 2021

CrystalClear added a comment to T8270: Added Cargo Config.

Thanks for checking, strange he noted it was a MW 1.37 bug (though just glad he added a workaround in Cargo). I'll have to wander blindly around mediawiki phab to see if I can find where the bug is mentioned.

Dec 9 2021, 08:15 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear awarded T8270: Added Cargo Config a Y So Serious token.
Dec 9 2021, 08:11 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear added a comment to T8270: Added Cargo Config.

Ah, I also just found this, potentially the extension may need to be updated if the copy tested was tested before Nov 25th?
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Cargo#Table_recreation_doesn't_seem_to_work_in_1.37

Dec 9 2021, 07:51 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear added a comment to T8270: Added Cargo Config.

Apologies, took me some time to get that typed out. I was in the process of installing MW 1.36.2 on my VPS, so I could try reproducing the problem there, then remembered the 1.37 upgrade, re-tested and stumbled on this.

Dec 9 2021, 07:42 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear added a comment to T8270: Added Cargo Config.

I partially figured out what's going wrong in the initial table, with added columns not generated. After MW upgrade to 1.37, which now allows _pageData table to be regenerated via user interface, doing a replacement table (hitting refresh here is equivilent to php setCargoPageData.php --replacement). Unfortunately, this always fails part way through with the error "creating jobs to populate _pageData failed" possibly because of the number of records or run time since not done via command line?

Dec 9 2021, 07:42 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear reopened T8270: Added Cargo Config as "Open".
Dec 9 2021, 07:25 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)

Dec 2 2021

CrystalClear updated the task description for T8371: cargoRecreateData.php to fix "stuck" deleted page (found workaround so it hopefully doesn't happen again).
Dec 2 2021, 02:56 · Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear added a comment to T8371: cargoRecreateData.php to fix "stuck" deleted page (found workaround so it hopefully doesn't happen again).

To clarify, I'd just do it on the cargo tables page, however one of the tables is generated by an extra mediawiki Cargo config and cannot be regenerated via the interface, it can only be regenrated by maintenance script.

Dec 2 2021, 02:47 · Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear updated the task description for T8371: cargoRecreateData.php to fix "stuck" deleted page (found workaround so it hopefully doesn't happen again).
Dec 2 2021, 02:43 · Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear created T8371: cargoRecreateData.php to fix "stuck" deleted page (found workaround so it hopefully doesn't happen again).
Dec 2 2021, 02:41 · Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki
CrystalClear closed T8270: Added Cargo Config as Invalid.
Dec 2 2021, 02:32 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)

Nov 24 2021

CrystalClear added a comment to T8270: Added Cargo Config.

Or perhaps php cargoRecreateData.php --table _pageData might work? I'm not familiar with this table creation or functioning, didn't use it before.

Nov 24 2021, 23:12 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear added a comment to T8270: Added Cargo Config.

Hmm, I'm not sure what's going on then. For some reason it is not creating or populating all columns, only one column as can be seen on our private wiki here:
https://dmlwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CargoTables/_pageData

Nov 24 2021, 22:55 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear reopened T8270: Added Cargo Config as "Open".
Nov 24 2021, 05:03 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear added a comment to T8270: Added Cargo Config.

I see that the needed table (entitled _pageData) was indeed created by Cargo; however, it is missing columns (not able to be set via the interface only via maintenance script). I think php setCargoPageData.php needs to be run from Cargo /maintenance in order to populate the _pageData table with the columns set in that config. Found it finally in the cargo docs:

Nov 24 2021, 04:00 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)

Nov 11 2021

CrystalClear added a comment to T8276: Extension Request: SimpleBatchUpload.

Ah, I didn't find that one, sorry. Probably had a typo in my search. The only change since T4442 is the part about "many other batch upload extensions already installed" --I think it's just MSUpload now, since the others fell unmaintained, and if folks need protected categories with that they're out of luck.

Nov 11 2021, 04:37 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear renamed T8276: Extension Request: SimpleBatchUpload from Extension Reqeuest: SimpleBatchUpload to Extension Request: SimpleBatchUpload.
Nov 11 2021, 02:35 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear created T8276: Extension Request: SimpleBatchUpload.
Nov 11 2021, 02:35 · Extensions, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)

Nov 10 2021

CrystalClear added a comment to T8270: Added Cargo Config.

Thank you!

Nov 10 2021, 07:20 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)
CrystalClear created T8270: Added Cargo Config.
Nov 10 2021, 06:49 · Configuration, Universal Omega, MediaWiki (SRE)

Nov 9 2021

CrystalClear added a comment to T8224: Importing content and having settings set.

Thank you both, much appreciated!

Nov 9 2021, 19:00 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki, Universal Omega

Nov 2 2021

CrystalClear added a comment to T8224: Importing content and having settings set.

Thanks for confirming.

Nov 2 2021, 22:44 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki, Universal Omega

Nov 1 2021

CrystalClear added a comment to T8224: Importing content and having settings set.
Nov 1 2021, 23:27 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki, Universal Omega
CrystalClear added a comment to T8224: Importing content and having settings set.

Our images are not importing after a couple of days. Any chance this can be stuck? I've disabled InstantCommons (per Agent) to prevent random Instant Commons image from showing up in their place.

Nov 1 2021, 23:06 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki, Universal Omega

Oct 29 2021

CrystalClear added a comment to T8224: Importing content and having settings set.
In T8224#165885, @Universal_Omega wrote:

As for skins, the best you can do probably for all other skins not available in ManageWiki, is add them to $wgSkipSkins in Special:ManageWiki/settings.

Oct 29 2021, 21:43 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki, Universal Omega
CrystalClear added a comment to T8224: Importing content and having settings set.

Have I mentioned that you guys rock? Well, you guys rock! Thanks :)

Oct 29 2021, 12:19 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki, Universal Omega
CrystalClear added a comment to T8224: Importing content and having settings set.

Email checked and sent. Thanks, and my apologies.

Oct 29 2021, 11:20 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki, Universal Omega
CrystalClear added a comment to T8224: Importing content and having settings set.

Thanks. Ah, I somehow missed the link target in the settings, thank you! I will fix that one tomorrow also. Thanks for confirming that first namespace will be 3000, I thought that might be the case but wasn't sure.

Oct 29 2021, 08:19 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki, Universal Omega
CrystalClear created T8224: Importing content and having settings set.
Oct 29 2021, 07:55 · MediaWiki (SRE), MediaWiki, Universal Omega